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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2046.0. "Value for Money" by PEKING::ATKINSA () Tue Mar 23 1993 08:34

    
    
    	I've started this note because in this day and age value for
    money must be a large factor when choosing a car.
    	A member of my family has just bought a 24valve 3.0i Senator,H reg
    with 30,000 miles for 12,000 pounds.For those of you that haven't been 
    lucky enough to drive one,i'll explain a bit about it.
    	For your money you get:
    	
    	Leather interior,power assisted steering,CD player,6 speaker
    cassete/radio,Air conditioning,full electrics package,cruise control,
    factory fitted alarm,and lots of other lovely things,including a top
    speed of 155mph,and 0-60 in 9.4 sec.
    	I think even at brand new list price of about 27,000 pounds it's
    still good value,when compared to the new Jaguar XJ12.The Jag seems to
    have all the features of the Senator,(with a slightly faster 0-60 and
    the prestige factor)but it costs 46-47,000 pounds.I drove the Senator
    for a couple of days and found it so comforable,that I can't see how a 
    Jag could have 20,000 pounds worth of extra comfort.
    
    		I hope this note will bring some interesting replies.
    
    	Andy. 
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2046.1Logically, we all end up driving Ladas ?NEWOA::FIDO_TThe Prize Is Bigger Than The PriceTue Mar 23 1993 09:1123
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    I think that it is impossible to start analysing what extras etc. you
    get for your money. 
    
    If you take your example a stage further, you will see that the Senator
    is literally not worth the extra �nK ( I don't know the list prices )
    over a, for example, Sierra or Cavalier. It, in turn, will also not be
    worth the extra over a Mini etc. and so, following that line of logic, 
    we would all end up driving Ladas or Yugos.
    
    Now, obviously that doesn't happen - after all, if it did, no one would
    ever look at any of the prestigious cars - because you need to look at
    the whole package, not break it down into its component parts.
    
    Obviously, there are many people who do think that a Jaguar XJ12 is
    worth it and it is probably the dream car for many people. I am not
    saying that the Senator isn't a good car, but I don't think that you
    can compare cars based on just the extras.
    
    	Just my 2p
    
    	Terry
2046.2Rip offPEKING::ATKINSATue Mar 23 1993 09:4220
    RE-1
    
    Good points,
    
    In this month's Performance car there's an article on the new Porsche
    911 turbo,in this article a comparison is being made between the 3.3
    Turbo,and the new 3.6 Turbo and according to the performance figures
    given the cars have exactly the same perfomance (174mph top,and 0-60 in
    4.8 secs),the 3.3Turbo costs 72,295pounds,and the 3.6Turbo costs 
    82-85,000 pounds,and from what I can tell the only difference (except
    from the engine)is the suspension and the wheels (slightly larger on
    the 3.6).
    		Is that really worth 10,000 pounds.
    
    Now I understand what Re-1 was getting at but it's just my opinion that 
    if I had the money I wouldn't see any reason to blow an extra 10k on
    larger wheels and a better suspension set up,for the same performance.
    May that's just me.
    
    		Andy
2046.3I don't believe there isn't a performance differenceMUGGER::LEACHThere's a hole in my fuel pipe...Tue Mar 23 1993 10:5810
>>    Now I understand what Re-1 was getting at but it's just my opinion that 
>>    if I had the money I wouldn't see any reason to blow an extra 10k on
>>    larger wheels and a better suspension set up,for the same performance.
>>    May that's just me.
    
    You actualy don't get the option as the 3.3 Turbo hasn't been available
    for a few years now.
    
    Shaun.