Conference terri::cars_uk

    If I were you, I'd quit and let them try to sue you for it!
    
    D.

Matt,

i suppose what really hurts is that this is _only_ for a Rover!!!!!!!!

;-)

    Well now, since you have every reason to believe that all was
    hunky-dory all that time, have they proven beyond all doubt that you
    *really* haven't paid? I you see what I mean... }^>
    
    Laurie.

You could offer to pay on the drip. Lets say about 10 pounds per month

Give or take a few months , you could be quits by the year 2002

                     KR

I think I'd go and get some legal advice. You may find that it's their problem.

Dave.

    I hope you can get away without having to pay, but it
    does say in vtx "Lease Scheme Guidelines" -
    
    "PAYING FOR MY CAR"
    
    "You are responsible for ensuring the correct lease charge is deducted
    from your salary."
    
    
    
    Roy
    
    

    -.2
    	I agree with Dave - you should get some legal advice!!
    
    -.1
    	I'm aware of the phrase on VTX, Roy, but I'm not sure what weight
    it carries in law.
    
    I know of a case (in Digital) where this happened about 10 years ago to
    a friend of mine. He was forced to pay up two years worth over 12
    months. He actually left Dec during this period - but I'm not sure if
    they pursued him for the cash.
    
    Steve
    

    I agree with all advice thus far but also have a word with a friendly
    finance person. If the legal boys tell you that you are not liable then
    the tax man will probably want a load more cash from you. As you do not
    dispute that you owe the money why not negotiate with the company to
    spread it over a period of time to suit you.
    
    When I joined the company I went for three months before I realised
    that I was not paying for the car. I spread what I owed over the followin
    6 months.
    
    
    good Luck
    
    Pete
    

    RE: last few...
    
    Given that he's been given a P60, how can he be sure that the tax
    hasn't already been deducted? I too would take legal advice; I suspect
    it's not his problem either. How on earth can this be missed for so
    long?
    
    I'd also suggest you post something in UK_DIGITAL
    
    Laurie.

I've done some further checking with an expert I know, they say, it is the
employees responsibility to ensure they are being paid correctly, the money
can be demanded but not all in one go and the amount deducted should be agreed
between the parties. They didn't say what happens if you don't agree.

I'm not sure if I agree with this view (thus take legal advice), it could be
argued that the all powerful company is in a better position to understand
what it is paying and deducting than an employee who has no payroll expertise.

Dave.

    I'm afraid I have to come down on the 'employee's fault' side. Whilst
    you may have no payroll expertise, it's hardly rocket science taking
    the top line of your salary slip, multiplying by 12 and comparing with
    the bottom line on the Salary Change Advice. 
    
    If you'd been over paying would you agree to them 'forgetting' it as
    you hadn't noticed for 2 years?.
    
    Richard 

    How well do you get on with your cost-centre manager!?
    
    tim

	It has always been the case that the employee is responsible, and as
	Richard says, checking your gross monthly, and multiplying by 12 to
	ensure the right ammount is being paid, is not an astonishing feat to
	perform.
	
	I have read many of these types of problems, with new cars, with 
	changeover (upgrades) of cars, and with tax issues with cars.

	At the end of the day, if you owe it, you have to pay.
	(ignorance being no excuse etc...)

	The variable is negotiating how long it will take to pay back.

	Heather

Yes, I will have to pay.

Digital have admitted they have 'made a mistake', however
I must pay the money back.
As their (digitals) concession for making the mistake they
have graciously allowed me to pay it back in installments.

I will check my pay slip throughly in future ;-)

Thanks for all the advice.

Matt.

>As their (digitals) concession for making the mistake they
>have graciously allowed me to pay it back in installments.

They *have* to let you pay back in installments. Any other attitude displayed
on behalf of Digital should be brought to your managements attention.

Dave.

    Still, at least they're not asking you for the interest earned on the
    overpayment, like the Inland Revenue could and might.
    
    JK

How much are you being asked to pay ???


You were presumably taxed on the money you received in your pay packet , which 
normally gets deducted if you pay for the car before tax. Therefore will you 
have to pay back the money less the tax and NI deductions ??

    When you pay it back your salary is less therefore you in effect pay
    less NI and TAX, so this is taken care of.
    
    Richard