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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1738.0. "Fiat 1.8i twin cam??" by NZOMIS::TURRELL (nil et barstardum est vert il carborundum) Fri Apr 03 1992 06:25

    hi folks,
    
    
    
    	anyone got any experience/views/info' on the Fiat 1.8 injected,
    8 valve, twin cam engine?? Power, reliability, smoothness, oil, etc...
    
    
    	have been looking at a Fiat Tempra with the 1.8. Car's o.k. with
    classical design and nicely sprung. However took the car for a wee
    pedal and couldnt really tell a lot about the engine. Seems fairly
    torquey from 1500 up to 4000 but in the new car I drove (300k) it
    started to get a bit 'thrashy' between 4k rpm and 4.6k.
    
    	Car also had classical Italian build quality - i.e. shut lines that
    varied by 4-5mm every 30cm, off-square bonnet, and a lot of C pillar
    noise. Offset by great seats, great lights, great gearchange (ex Tipo),
    great looks (subdued) and great power assistance. (and I can probably
    negotiate a good price!)
    
    
     
    	Here in New Zealand the Tempra is very rare (Fiat dont have a big
    presence) and it makes a nice change (will swap my 12valve Mazda 626
    hatch).                         
    
    
    
    
    Appreciate any news/views on the engine or car.
    
    
    
    many thanks
    
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1738.1Tempra's ~OKUBOHUB::MCGINTY_JFri Apr 03 1992 09:4227
    I've been driving a Tempra 1.8Ie SX for the last year.  Comments:
    
    - engine very willing and revs very freely to 7000 plus RPM
    - it has an annoying boom/resonance around 3500 RPM - see next
    - gearing is quite low @2oMPH/1000 RPM therefore revs are quite high
    cruising on the motorway and is annoying between 68 and 73 mph because
    of the resonance
    - fuel economy is OK but not brilliant - I get +/- 33 MPG however it is
    driven
    - interior is very plush with lots of little goodies & electric widgets
    - headroom is limited - I'm 6' 1" and the headroom is zero
    - the drivers seat/pedal/steering wheel relationship is typical
    Italian: the reach is too long for people with average/long legs
    
    Bottom line: It is a reasonably well built car and good value for money
    but I don't think I'd have another one unless:
    
    - 6 speed gearbox or overdrive fitted
    - engine boom around 3500 RPM eliminated
    - driving position improved
    
    My recommendation is to try to get one for a reasonable period like 48
    hours to get acquainted.
    
    John
    
    
1738.2Reliability and parts ????SASE::FAILTE::THOMSONSFri Apr 03 1992 10:0819
Firstly I should say that I owned 3 FIATS from 1978-1982.

But to come up to date I have a friend that has the 1.8iE"TOP OF THE RANGE"model
from new.

It is now around 18 months old .

It has suffered from the paint flaking off ,squeaks ,rattles,other bits and 
pieces falling off.

Then at around 11 months old the radiator burst and the car was off the road 
for 5 days waiting on one coming from TURIN no replacment car was given during 
this period .
The car has average milage on it and is not abbused.

So with a fairly small presence in NZ I would think twice.


							Stuart
1738.3Wot' CAR Magazine said + a wee bit more...TRUCKS::BEATON_SI Just Look InnocentMon Apr 13 1992 14:2033
    In last month's CAR magazine they road tested the Fiat Tipo 2.0 ie
    against the Zeta engined 1.8 Escort XR3i, 8v Golf GTi and the Nissan
    Sunny GTi.
    
    Overall the magazine rated the Fiat as the best buy over the rest...
    the Nissan came a close second. None of the cars were really rated 
    badly though, but plus points were given particularily to the Fiat for
    the torqueness (and sound) of its engine, its road holding capability,
    cabin space was unbeatable and comfort was highly praised as well, and 
    last, but not least, it was the cheapest of the lot although once you
    added ABS this brought the price up a fair whack.
    
    As an asside, Britain is not the place to ask for comments on Italian
    cars in general. Brits have been against Italian cars ever since
    engines used to drop out of Lancias in the 70's. The rust problem has
    long since been sorted out on Italian cars, but once cars get a
    tarnished image in the UK it's very difficult for that car and its
    completely new successor to shake that image. (This kind of thing can
    work well for a car... the UK has as two of its best selling cars, the
    Ford Fiesta and Ford Escort !! ... Do people really spend their own money
    on these cars?) Rover has a similar problem, there's quite a lot of
    people still believe that Rover make cars that handle like the Austin
    Maxi.
    
    Finally, back in 1984 I owned a 2.0 litre Fiat Super Mirafiori... and 
    quite frankly it's the best car I've ever had the pleasure of owning.
    
    Reargards,
    
    
    Stephen