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1570.1 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | On the bank of brinkruptcy | Wed Oct 16 1991 18:18 | 6 |
| It doesn't take a great mind to work out that company car drivers are
likely to do 2 or 3 times the mileage that private motorists cover.
Therefore of course they are statistically a greater risk.
Roy
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1570.2 | Beware of G-reg Sierras/Cavaliers | KERNEL::WATTERSON | VENI VIDI VISA | Wed Oct 16 1991 18:21 | 4 |
| Drive round the Basingstoke ring-road during the rush hour for the
answer.
Paul
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1570.3 | Yes but! | JUMBLY::RICHARDS | | Wed Oct 16 1991 18:37 | 1 |
| Statistics, Shmatistics - how are they at parking?
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1570.4 | | KERNEL::PARRY | Trevor Parry | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:08 | 6 |
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From evidence in this notesfile, company car drivers are more reluctant
to spend money on anti-theft devices such as alarms. Hence in this
case the statement is true.
TP
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1570.5 | They might work for DEC, but there again, they might not ! | CRATE::RAWSON | Watching birth puts you off red meat | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:18 | 6 |
| I know of one company car owner that takes theirs on treasure
hunts, not the Sunday afternoon jolly old poodle along ones, but
the thrash the hell out of it, see how many wheels we can get off
the ground and oops shame I haven't got a sump guard type.
Alex
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1570.6 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | Don't you just hate it when that happens. | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:32 | 13 |
| re .4
Is it or is it not the _owner_ of a vehicle that
is responsible for providing anti-theft devices ?
As a company car driver of a car in a high risk catagory, I am
concerned that the company is not interested in making it a little
more by equipping it with an alarm.
Roy
PS I guess Hertz is the _owner_ but it is the company that has to fork
out for it.
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1570.7 | Not EVERY company car is driven for business. | NEWOA::SAXBY | Aye. When I were a lad.... | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:45 | 10 |
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Re the note on company cars mileage.
While it may be 'statistically true' that MOST company car drivers
do a greater mileage than the 'average' private motorist, you only have
to look around the car park of any railway station on a mainline into
London to realise that a lot of company car drivers do about 10 miles a
week in their cars!
Mark
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1570.8 | | KERNEL::WATTERSON | VENI VIDI VISA | Thu Oct 17 1991 15:54 | 8 |
| Re .6
Maybe 'the company' should reflect the cost of these 'high-risk
category' cars in the preferred list and just double their price ?
After all, alarms don't stop determined car thieves - do they ?
Paul
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1570.9 | | KERNEL::SHELLEYR | | Thu Oct 17 1991 16:22 | 7 |
| Re: .8
'the company' already is loading cars with a higher insurance risk.
Haven't you read the new car scheme guidelines Paul ?
Roy
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1570.10 | Statistics | HAMPS::NISBET_D | | Thu Oct 17 1991 17:29 | 10 |
| On statistics:
Perhaps company cars drivers do on average more miles per year. But I would
have thought that the important ration was that of company cars to other
vehicles on the road at any given time. If this is the same as the accident
rate, then I would admit that the statistics are a sham. Unless the
statistics take this into account.
Dougie
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1570.11 | well, I'm feeling cynical today..... | VOGON::MITCHELLE | Beware of the green meanie | Thu Oct 17 1991 18:01 | 21 |
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As I think has been mentioned before in this conference - you don't
have to go looking at statistics to get info on company car drivers -
just listen to many of them....
It doesn't matter - it's only a company car....
I wouldn't take my own car along that track....
I wouldn't take my own car to xxxx it might get pinched - but...
I wouldn't drive my own car this hard but ...
I banged the door on the wall when I opened it - but it doesn't
matter I'm not paying to get it fixed....
I don't car what they charge to fix/service it - I'm not paying...
Get the idea?
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1570.12 | | CURRNT::PAGED | What if Icke is right ? | Thu Oct 17 1991 18:07 | 1 |
| Ha... the prosecution rests... Get out of that one Dougie !!
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1570.13 | There are company cars and company cars | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Thu Oct 17 1991 18:44 | 13 |
| Re: .11
One nice thing about the Digital scheme is that your do have a choice of car,
so on the whole you tend to take more pride in your car and look after it.
If we all got Cavalier 1.6GL's then i am sure that they would be treated
more like the "traditional" company car (100mph in the "fast" lane of
motorways, 2 feet from the car in front, jacket hanging from hook above
rear side window ...).
Lets hope that the scheme continues to encourage a caring attitude!
mb
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1570.14 | The people in this file are the minority... | VOGON::MITCHELLE | Beware of the green meanie | Fri Oct 18 1991 10:10 | 19 |
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re .13 -
>>
One nice thing about the Digital scheme is that your do have a choice of car,
so on the whole you tend to take more pride in your car and look after it.
>>
I don't think this is necessarily true in the majority of cases. -
maybe the people in this file do - but the fact that they are noting
here means that they have an interest in cars anyway.
The other side of this is that people can choose cars which they could
not afford to insure themselves, which can give inexperienced drivers
access to very powerful cars - many of which are damaged shortly into
their lease life.... (I don't really want to open up an old rat-hole
here, but I believe this could be one of the reasons that the new
scheme has a separate insurance bit)
Elaine
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1570.15 | I'm not sure I follow you | TASTY::NISBET | DELETE/TOO_LATE DOCDB.DAT; | Fri Oct 18 1991 13:17 | 14 |
| <<< Note 1570.12 by CURRNT::PAGED "What if Icke is right ?" >>>
Ha... the prosecution rests... Get out of that one Dougie !!
I'm not sure I'm with you ... the base note is my perception of company car
drivers from experience and listening to other colleagues. My later note is
an admission that the statistics may be biased to make company car drivers
look worse than they are by not taking into account higher mileages.
I'm such a tolerant well rounded flexibale fence sitting
consider-other-viewpoints lovely chap it's not true.
Dougie
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