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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

1030.0. "Optional Ash Trays!" by LARVAE::BRIGGS (They use computers don't they?) Wed Apr 18 1990 10:53

    There used to be a time when people jokingly talked about certain cars
    where even the ashtrays were extra (eg BMWs). Well I think the time has
    come where this should not be taken so lightly.
    
    As a non smoker (and I seem to be in a majority these days) I think
    there really is a case for optional ash trays. I would
    prefer the space to be used for casettes, odds and ends etc etc.
    Actually if car designers put a bit more thought into it they could
    make dual purpose fittings (not at the same time of course!).
    
    Anyone any views? Do any manufacturers actually DO this. Alternatively,
    is there a living to be made in making plug compatible units for common
    cars to replace the ashtrays with casette holders, money holders etc
    etc? Does someone already DO this?
    
    
    Richard
    Basingstoke
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1030.1Coin holderSHAPES::MACMILLANRSo many roads, so little timeWed Apr 18 1990 11:026
    I have just what you're looking for...
    
    Just open the ash tray, and put the money in!  Amazing, an instant
    no-cost option coin holder.  ;-)
    
    Rob
1030.2VANISH::TALBOYSPeter Talboys 774-6162Wed Apr 18 1990 11:553
Same here, I've always used mine for petrol receipts and things like that,
they seem to be perfectly sized for that sort of thing ... I'm glad they
fit them!!
1030.3PANEL BEATERSSHAPES::DIGGINSRWed Apr 18 1990 14:568
    I used to work in a Vauxhall garage which shall remain nameless and we
    had quite a lot of people come in to have the ashtray replaced by a
    plain plastic panel bit stupid I thought paying people to remove
    equipment from your car.
    
    Russ
    
    :-}
1030.4How about "Wrapper tray"MALLET::STEPHENSNever could get the hang of ThursdaysWed Apr 18 1990 16:376
    In spite of being a pipe and cigar smoker I will not allow smoking in
    the car until it is at least 24 months old. (and then only in moments
    of great weakness whilst watching BMX racing in the rain). I find,
    however, that the ash tray makes a marvelous repository for toffee
    papers etc. What is much more wastful is the rear ash-tray.
    Jim
1030.5BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottWed Apr 18 1990 16:395
Saab cars with the optional CD player ICE equipment do not have an ashtray in
front, and have a small no smoking sign where the cigar lighter normally goes.

/. Ian .\
1030.6VOGON::BALLVote Early - Vote Often!Wed Apr 18 1990 16:5810
I don't smoke and so I tend to use the ashtray for junk like sweet wrappers etc.
One day I was giving somebody a lift who asked if I minded him smoking - I
didn't so I drove on for a bit until I noticed smoke coming out of the fascia!
Opening the ashtray revealed a nice little bonfire of tofee papers burning away
quite happily.

So, its a good idea to only use it as an ashtray or a junk holder at any given 
time...!

Jon
1030.7holy smokeCHEFS::BUXTONWed Apr 18 1990 17:1412
    I smoke quite heavily and all my company cars have been fitted with
    ashtrays. I'm right handed, however, and it's here my ciggie smoulders.
    Ashtrays in UK vehicles are invariably on the L.H.S. of the driver.
    
    Result is steadily growing pile of ash in drivers footwell and on
    drivers right knee. Strangely, few people ask for a second ride
    in my car. Smoking passengers are discouraged from using the ashtray
    and requested to use their own footwell; this saves clearing the
    ashtray out at the bi-annual clean-up.
    
    Bucko...
1030.8VOGON::ATWALDreams, they complicate my lifeWed Apr 18 1990 17:206
ashtrays always seem to be very near air vents... resulting in most of the ash
blowing back towards you...!



...art
1030.9Do you have a beer bottle holder on the dash as well?SHAPES::KERRELLDSBP but mail still to @UCGWed Apr 18 1990 18:284
I am suprised that anyone would admit to driving while smoking, as this is 
a very dangerous thing to do.

Dave.
1030.10KERNEL::HUTCHINGSLunch is for wimpsThu Apr 19 1990 10:311
    why?
1030.11remember the ESSO blue adverts ???KERNEL::ABELLThu Apr 19 1990 11:033
    
    
    'cause smoke gets in your eyes.....
1030.12Smoking should be banned anyway!!!SHAPES::GALVINSDon't worry, ski happyThu Apr 19 1990 11:131
1030.13well...this is a "vehicles" conference...KERNEL::ABELLThu Apr 19 1990 11:5611
    re .12
    
      I agree...let us ban ALL busses, coaches, lorries, derv burning
    vehicles, vehicles with worn valve seals, pistons etc..... :-)
    
      or is that not the type of "smoking" your thinking of.
    
    
      Alan
1030.14Actually I was thinking of smoking after ....;^)SHAPES::GALVINSDon't worry, ski happyThu Apr 19 1990 12:231
1030.15Odd SpecificationAYOV27::ISMITHMr The Fish?Thu Apr 19 1990 12:255
    Oddly enough, when I got my Polo the midrange model had a cigarette
    lighter as standard, the top of the range didn't.  Are the people
    buying top of the range Polos more green?
    
    Ian.
1030.16fire...!!KERNEL::HUTCHINGSLunch is for wimpsThu Apr 19 1990 12:595
    re: .14
    
    don't know...I haven't looked..!!!!!
    
    :-)
1030.17YUPPY::FINNThu Apr 19 1990 14:374
    re .15
    
    No, they just have more disposable income because they don't have
    a chemical dependency to maintain
1030.18TASTY::JEFFERYIs "Bones" the real McCoy ??Fri Apr 20 1990 09:363
RE: .14

So you do "...." when you drive as well!!!
1030.19SHAPES::KERRELLDSBP but mail still to @UCGFri Apr 20 1990 18:4728
re.10:

>    why?

Safe driving takes all of your concentration. The smoker who drives may 
have one or more of the following distractions;

1. Fumbling for a cigarette from it's packet
2. Placing cigarette in mouth
3. Reaching for ignition device
4. Bringing ignition device to cigarette tip
5. Dropping hot ignition device in lap
6. Depositing ash in preferred location (ashtray, floor or window)
7. Screams of backseat passenger as hot ash, blown back through window,
   hits them in the eye.
8. Dropping lighted cigarette in lap.
9. Smoke impairs vision.
10. Nicotine alters reactions.
11. Reaching for ashtray to stub out cigarette.
12. Sharing cigarettes amongst passengers.
13. Holding cigarette in hand while trying to operate one or more car 
    controls
14. Horn from car behind because discarded cigarette has just bounced off 
    his bonnet.

I'm sure there is more.

Dave.
1030.20Like the list Dave!CRATE::STREETTapestry? OK by me, OK Bayeux?Mon Apr 23 1990 11:409
14. Horn from car behind because discarded cigarette has just bounced off 
    his bonnet.
    
    
    	I don't hoot usually, but I _DO_ flash my lights! I can't stand
    people that throw anything out of car windows.... whether it's cigs
    or other litter... it _really_ annoys me.
    
    Ray.
1030.22Not at 70mph you dont !!!WARNUT::SMITHCone careful owner, low mileage !!Tue Apr 24 1990 11:051