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Title: | Cars in the UK |
Notice: | Please read new conference charter 1.70 |
Moderator: | COMICS::SHELLEY ELD |
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Created: | Sun Mar 06 1994 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 2584 |
Total number of notes: | 63384 |
801.0. "A "new" type of IC engine" by GIDDAY::GILLINGS (Have we fixed it yet?) Mon Oct 16 1989 10:34
I saw a TV report about a guy with a "new" kind of internal combustion
engine which "has the potential to change the face of the world" you
know the stuff, less pollution from a smaller, lighter, more powerful,
more fuel efficient motor etc... In Oz we've seen this all before with
Ralph Sarich who has only just announced a contract with Ford US to use
one of his engines nearly 20 years after he first demonstrated his orbital
engine (besides the Ford deal is for an improved 2 stroke engine, not
the wonderous orbital). The Wankle engine has enjoyed some attention but,
overall, I think it's been a bit of a failure.
Anyway, this new engine looked rather interesting. As demonstrated, the
engine consisted of a central shaft with a "swash plate" at either end
(a swash plate is a disk attached to the shaft at an angle so that a
point on the plate moves along the axis of the shaft as it rotates) In
the middle were 2 cylinders each holding 2 opposing pistons. The pistons
have fixed con rods which touch the swash plates. As the piston moves
out, the conrod causes the swash plate to rotate, thereby converting
linear motion into rotational motion without a crankshaft. Further
rotation of the swash plate pushes the piston back in.
cylinder
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/------------| |------------\ pistons in compression
/ ---------------- \
/ \
----/----------------------------------\----- shaft
/ \
/ ---------------- \
/------------| |------------\ at end of power stroke
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Now the clever bit. The inventor claims that conventional engines are
inefficient because the crankshaft dictates that the piston always
moves up and down in sinusoidal motion, in particular the length (and
time) of the compression stroke must be the same as for the power
stroke. He says the compression stroke should be slower and the power
stroke faster (to match the combustion characteristics of the fuel/air
mixture). So, his swash plate isn't flat, it has kinks and flat spots
on it so he has full control over the motion of the piston. In a
conventional engine a displacement/time graph of the piston is a sine
wave. In this guys' engine it would look like a sawtooth with a small flat
spot:
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_______--- \_______
exhaust compression power exhaust
Clearly the engine must be a 2 stroke ('cause the piston only moves out
on the power stroke and must be pushed back by the swash plate) but they
didn't give any details of the porting/valves in the cylinder. You can also
vary the number of cylinders but it seems that 2 is the minimum. As
with all good inventions it is simple and uses a fairly obvious mechanism.
Just a few questions for the net though -
1) The idea of a swash plate seems very familiar to me, has anyone else
heard of a similar crankless engine? If so did it use a uniform
plate (=sinusoidal motion)?
2) Is it possible to tune the plate for optimum combustion or would
it be necessary to keep the engine in a narrow rev range for
reasonable performance? (bring on the infinite ratio gearboxes?)
3) One of the inventors' criticisms of conventional engines was that
they are "inherently unbalanced". Surely his swash plates are much
more unbalanced?
4) Anyone have any idea how efficient it is to use a swash plate?
it would seem to me that it must lack torque unless the slope
of the power stroke part was very steep or the revs very high.
5) Anyone like to hazard a guess as to the wear characteristics of
the piston/conrod/swash plate banging away at each other? Imagine
an accident involving one of these engines in which the swash plate
broke off. 2 (or more) pistons would be propelled at high speed
along the axis of the engine.
John Gillings, Sydney CSC
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801.4 | .... I know 2 stroke isn't different enough, but ... | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Mon Feb 19 1990 12:30 | 5 |
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Interesting article in International Business Week for 15/01/90
on the experimental 2-stroke GM concept car.
Photocopy of article for anybody that mails me with their mailstop.
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801.5 | We're still waiting Ralph | GIDDAY::GILLINGS | a crucible of informative mistakes | Tue Feb 20 1990 03:58 | 15 |
| re .4:
> Interesting article in International Business Week for 15/01/90
> on the experimental 2-stroke GM concept car.
Would this be a Sarich engine by any chance? Ralph Sarich won an inventors
award about 20 years ago for his "orbital engine" which was going to "change
civilisation as we know it". He has since made lots of money without seeming
to do anything. Over the years the orbital engine has changed into some sort
of hi tech 2 stroke engine. He recently signed some agreement with GM to use it
it in production cars. Again this deal was going to revolutionise the car
industry (more power, less fuel, all the usual hype) and earn Australia
zillions in foreign earnings. Are the predictions finally going to come true?
John Gillings, Sydeny CSC
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801.6 | nope.... | CHEFS::CLEMENTSD | Public Sector and Telecomms | Tue Feb 20 1990 09:03 | 2 |
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....... just a regular 'ornery 'ol 2 stroke!
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