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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

575.0. "CARLTON GSi any good for towing?" by UKCSSE::PARKER () Tue May 02 1989 17:55

Well the time has come, lease renewal in 4 months time.

She-who must-be-obeyed has issued an edict that a full four seater is mandatory,
and must be heavy enough to pull the caravan. SO my Toyota Supra must go, sob.
It pulls a caravan really well ( and quick!!!)

Now I like a bit of oomph in a car , so any comments about a Carlton GSI. On 
paper it looks pretty good, but I'd appreciate hearing from the experts out 
there. (unadulterated flattery!!!)

Ken
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575.19Carlton puurrrrfect...REPAIR::ATKINSTue Apr 14 1992 13:3515
    
    	I thought i'd look this note up as I managed to get a drive in a H'
    reg Carlton GSi 3000 24V.One word sums it up:
    
    				INCREDEBLE
    
    
    	Needless to say it's not my car,but I wish it was.The car manages
    to pull itself from 0-60 in around 6.5 seconds(I manage to time this
    with my stopwatch).The car gets to 110mph and then 'kicksdown'.The ride
    is sporty but smooth.I'm still buzzing now.You can forget Jaguar or
    Mercedes this is my dream car.
    
    		Andy...Wish-I-had-one......
    
575.20OrgasmatronVOGON::KAPPLERSpontaneity is fine in it's place....Tue Apr 14 1992 23:014
    The Instructors at the Hendon Police Driving School refer to their
    version of this as "the Orgasmatron"!
    
    JfK
575.21ex Police Cars....RDGENG::MOAKESRWed Apr 15 1992 11:589

	You should try and ex-police motorway pursuit car!

	I managed to get an ex-TVP 3.0 Senator (Without stripe, Sob !),
	140+mph,  outrageous 0-60 (Not yet measured though) and all of this
	for 1400 quid....

	_Richard
575.22Carlton v Senator....REPAIR::ATKINSWed Apr 15 1992 12:5410
    
    TVP?????Thames valley police???
    
    	My Uncle has a 1985 Senator 3.0 CD.Very nice and very fast,but a
    bit of a guzzler.He let me drive it once,and I was scared beyond belief
    ,though that's understandable when i'd just got out of my 1.2 Nova.
    
    
    			Andy.....Vauxhall-make-the-best.....MUFC
    
575.23REOSV2::FRENCHSSemper in excernereWed Apr 15 1992 15:316
My Friend had an EX-Met Police Granada Automatic.


Apparently it had TWO reverse gears.

Simon
575.24old joke...MAJORS::ALFORDWed Apr 15 1992 16:115

> Apparently it had TWO reverse gears.

Italian army version ?
575.25Carlton V Senator....RDGENG::MOAKESRWed Apr 15 1992 16:3314
	TVP....Yup,  indeed that is Thames Valley Police....

	The standard 3.0CDi machine can do a lot of damage too,  although with
	all the gadgets etc... It is a bit too heavy to be considered a 
	performance car,  now the police car,  that is a different matter.

	It is a complete strip down with only the basics (taxi spec),  plus
	a few nice add-ons,  hot brakes, suspension etc... and a very nice
	'put together properly' engine...

	_Richard...

	
575.26PERKY::RUTTERRut The NutWed Apr 15 1992 16:4020
>> Apparently it had TWO reverse gears.
>>                                -< old joke... >-
    
    Old note too, isn't it ?
    
    I thought this one was argued out some time ago.
    
    And what's the point of having two reverse gears ?
    
    In an auto, fit a higher ratio and let the torque converter work it out.
    
    Being a Police Car, they would simply turn round if necessary.  They
    may be taught to drive 'well', but I fail to accept that they can then
    drive well enough to overcome the inherent problems with reversing at
    high speed (enough to make an extra reverse gear worthwhile).
    
    Perhaps your friend had the axle/diff frigged about to work in reverse,
    thereby giving only one forward speed ???
    
    J.R.
575.27NEWOA::MACMILLANSo many V****s, so little timeWed Apr 15 1992 17:154
    Ever tried turning round on a motorway hard shoulder - I've seen police
    cars reversing rather quickly to get back through stationary motorways.
    
    Rob
575.28Just seems a dubious claim to [cynical old] mePERKY::RUTTERRut The NutWed Apr 15 1992 18:1211
>>    Ever tried turning round on a motorway hard shoulder
    
    Can't say that I have...  But I do appreciate it wouldn't always be easy.
    
>>    cars reversing rather quickly to get back through stationary motorways.
    
    Quickly, yes.
    
    Quick enough to utilise a higher ratio reverse gear - safely ?
    
    J.R.
575.29It's a myth!VOGON::KAPPLERSpontaneity is fine in it&#039;s place....Wed Apr 15 1992 18:303
    Pls see 24.2299
    
    JfK
575.30PERKY::RUTTERRut The NutThu Apr 16 1992 13:537
>>                               -< It's a myth! >-
>>    Pls see 24.2299
    
    That's just what I thought.  Hence my comment it was an old statement
    that had been argued out before.
    
    J.R.