Conference terri::cars_uk

    Anyone know if an RS Cosworth will run on unleaded or super unleaded?
    
    Simon.

the current 4x4 ones are unleaded

i'm pretty sure older ones could be adjusted to use unleaded...?!



...art

    DO NOT GET YOUR CAR ADJUSTED !!!!!
    
    I did once, but I think I got away with it...
    
    Seriously, I was charged �40 to have a bit of wire added to the EMU to
    'allow the car to run unleaded' (I had been running unleaded OK
    already), and the car was almost undriveable, I had to take it straight
    back and get the 'mod' removed.
    
    I always run the Snail on 98 octane 'Super Plus', partly because it's
    the Green Thing To Do, and partly because she gets indigestion with
    some brands of 4-star (Dave Brodie's work...) and I can't ever remember
    which brands they are.
    
    Basically, as far as Cosworths go, Super Plus is the best thing since
    they hung the guy who invented sliced bread.
    
    Wonko the Sane
    

How do you guys find the Cossie 4x4 over the long term ? Any know weaknesses
and trouble spots (mechanicals, electricals, body, interior etc.) ?

Has the suspension been firmed at all since the Sapphire was released ?

What are they like to live with in the city ?

Would you buy one again ?

>>How do you guys find the Cossie 4x4 over the long term ? Any know weaknesses

longterm is something Cossie owners needn't worry about - it's highly likely
to be quickly stolen :-)


...Art

    There was an article in last month's Performance Car about the Sierra
    Sapphire RS Cosworth 4x4, and what they thought of it after a long term
    test over 1 year and 23,000 odd miles. Apart from having it broken into
    twice, the owner said he really liked it and was very sorry to have to
    part with it. He also said he'd have no qualms about having another
    one.
    
    I don't think the suspension has been firmed up on the Sapphires. I've
    heard reports of the rear bumper bottoming out on the ground. I noticed
    a Sapphire Cossie last week with 3 people in the back seat, and the
    rear of the car was sitting *very* low to the ground, so I guess the
    rear suspension is not very firm.
    
    I had a drive in a Fiesta RS Turbo on Sunday and found that the
    suspension was very hard in comparison to my Escort RS before I got the
    Konis put it. The Sapphire Cossie is still supposed to handle superbly,
    so the suspension must be OK.... pitty I'll never get to drive one.
    Still if you get one, let me know, and I'll steal it on you :-)
    
    Gary.

    A new Cossie a while back would have set you back 28,000 approx. But I
    read that if you shopped around and told the dealer you had been
    offered one for a grand less than he was asking then, you could get
    this price down by about 4,000 pounds.
    
    Now I think you can pick one up for about 21,000 pounds.
    
    Gary.

    I think Performance Car quoted the reatail price at 26 thousand odd.
    But after one year they worked out that the car had depreciated by an
    alarming 7,500 quid!
    
    GAry.

    
    The list price has recently been cut from �26,000 odd to �21,000 odd.
    Ford say that with a bit of haggling you might/probably get one under
    the magic �19,250 barrier
    
    Rich
     

    
    Then you've got to insure it! :^(
    
    I'm in the progress of insuring my Lamborghini Diablo (No, sorry,
    that's just what people must think I said when they give me quotes
    for the Calibra!) and I was told that a Cosworth would cost me double
    the Calibra - That would mean anything between �1000 and �1500!!!
    That with 8 (count 'em!) years NCB, no convictions (EVER), no
    disabilities (perhaps agreeing to pay insurance counts as a mental 
    disability?). All in all, I should be a good risk, but the only risk
    I can see is that I'll be buying another Fiat Uno 45 to go with the
    wife's!
    
    Mark

>>    for the Calibra!) and I was told that a Cosworth would cost me double
>>    the Calibra - That would mean anything between �1000 and �1500!!!
    
    Did you ask how much cheaper it would be to insure an 8v Calibra ?
    
    J.R.

    
    Not recently (After all I doubt the car would run so well if I took
    out half the valves! :^)), but when I was changing the Renault I got
    comparitive quotes and the extra eight valves were costing about 10
    quid a throw! (As I recall, it may have even been more!).
    
    Mark
    
    

    
    List price for the cossie is now 21,380 but you can still haggle for
    your 10% discount which should bring it below the 19,250 tax level.
    
    Re last few - I was down the local Ford garage and A bloke who I know
    through RS meetings was there and he said his cossie had been chipped
    which makes it group 20B under the new ratings as opposed to group 20
    for the standard cossie. The car is on an E plate so is probably worth
    about 10,000, he's 27 with 40% n.c.b and it costs him 4,000.
    
    
    Regards martin

    What does the ``B'' stand for in ``Group 20B''. I assumed (obviously
    wrongly) the the new 20 group insurance scheem would remove the need
    for extra ``special'' groupings (A'la old 9+)

    
    B - Bloody expensive?
    
    Mark

    That's a completely extortionate rate. 4,000 pounds to insure a Ford is
    just not on.
    
    Shouldn't have told them about the chip :-)
    
    Gary.

    
    I think I'll stop moaning about �460 fully comp! :^)
    
    Mark

    This is a long shot looking at the last entry for this note........
    Anyone got a 270/280 bhp chip for a 2wd Cossie.
    
    Simon 7847 5439

    Simon,
    	Are you looking for info on them, or for someone to sell you one ?
    
    Rob

    Rob,
    
    Some one to sell one 
    
    Simon