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| 119.16 | gearboxes | REPAIR::CARTER | XR2i'S ARE CRAP!! | Thu Mar 18 1993 11:11 | 10 |
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I'm considering putting gear box slick 50 friction reducer in my
gearbox.
Has anyone done this treatment ?
Does it make the gearbox quieter and smother ?
I've already put slick 50 in the engine and found it to make the
engine quieter.
....Simon
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| 119.17 | No | ESBS01::WATSON | Hurray, xxxxxxxxxxxx | Thu Mar 18 1993 13:18 | 3 |
| Don't do it, the synchromesh _may_ rely on the friction.
Rik
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| 119.18 | Mobil SHC gear oil would be better! | BRUMMY::RICHARD | Your robot sounds like Pink Floyd | Thu Mar 18 1993 14:18 | 4 |
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If your gearbox has no oil leaks then Mobil synthetic gear oil is the best choice.
_Richard
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| 119.19 | | KURMA::SWRIGHT | Whisky Nose , Strawberry cheeks..!!!! | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:07 | 6 |
| Is this stuff OK for Turbo Charged Engines...?
Steve
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| 119.20 | | ESBS01::WATSON | Hurray, xxxxxxxxxxxx | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:33 | 5 |
| Mobil 1 is the best oil for a Turbo (or normally asp.) charged engine (IMHO)
I'm not sure about gearboxes but I tend to use it for most moving
things...
Rik
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| 119.21 | | KURMA::SWRIGHT | Whisky Nose , Strawberry cheeks..!!!! | Thu Mar 18 1993 16:49 | 6 |
| Is SLICK 50 ok for Turbo charged engines and will it prolong the life
of the Turbo...?? I was thinking about getting a bottle of it but
don't want to knacker the Turbo Unit.
Steve
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| 119.22 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Mutt | Thu Mar 18 1993 17:08 | 10 |
| � Is SLICK 50 ok for Turbo charged engines
IMO - No.
It *may* have a useful, beneficial effect. But then again, it may
clog up the oilways and lead to [earlier] problems in turbo life.
Go for the other suggestion, of a high-quality synthetic oil.
J.R.
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| 119.23 | Not So Limited | REPAIR::CARTER | | Fri Mar 19 1993 07:58 | 6 |
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The escort RS turbo has a limited slip differential so it would not
be advisable to use slick 50 in the engine.
That is if the turbo you are talking about is an escort.
....Simon
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| 119.24 | Huh? | BRUMMY::ALLIN1 | Your robot sounds like Pink Floyd | Fri Mar 19 1993 08:55 | 11 |
| > Is this stuff OK for Turbo Charged Engines...?
I would sure hope so!
It is in the same class as Mobil 1 engine oil, it exceeds ALL manufacturers
performance ratings for oil.
I find the only problem with any of this synthetic oil is that it can find
any leaks, or potential leaks you might have ;-(
_Richard
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| 119.25 | | ESBS01::RUTTER | Rut The Mutt | Fri Mar 19 1993 10:08 | 22 |
| �It is in the same class as Mobil 1 engine oil, it exceeds ALL manufacturers
�performance ratings for oil.
But it is not oil. It is an additive !
By it's nature, it 'sticks' to the surface of the components, which
reduces the friction between [metal] components.
I'm not sure I like the idea of having anything that 'sticks' to
the very hot, very high-speed bearings in a turbo. That also applies
to having burnt oil caked onto the bearing - which happens, with time.
Regardless of what oil and/or additives you use with a turbo, the most
important thing to do is to LET IT COOL DOWN when you've *used* it.
By that, I mean that if you've been running the car under load for any
time, do not simply stop, switch off and get out. Try to allow the
turbo to cool down at the end of your journey (slowing down before the
end of your trip can help ;-).
J.R.
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| 119.26 | | MASALA::SWRIGHT | Whisky Nose....Strawberry Cheeks | Fri Mar 19 1993 12:09 | 8 |
| re- .23
Its the Renault 21 Turbo I have.
Steve
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| 119.27 | Notes out of sync! | BRUMMY::RICHARD | Your robot sounds like Pink Floyd | Fri Mar 19 1993 14:16 | 10 |
| �It is in the same class as Mobil 1 engine oil, it exceeds ALL manufacturers
�performance ratings for oil.
> But it is not oil. It is an additive !
I think we have notes out of sync, my note was referring to Mobil 1 /SHC gear oil
not that PTFE rubbish!
_Richard
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| 119.28 | | SAC::BETTS_W | TCC/S, UCG, DTN 781 1848 | Tue Mar 30 1993 17:17 | 8 |
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Simon,
Why on earth should a limited slip differential be affected by the
addition of Slick 50 (or carrot juice for that matter) to an engine?
Just curious,
William.
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| 119.29 | Directions | REPAIR::CARTER | | Fri Apr 02 1993 09:13 | 12 |
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re.28
I read the instructions carfully before adding slick 50 to my car.
One of the notes said that they didn't recomend it with L.S.D's but
with some special types it is O.K. It asked the user to check with
thier technical dept. to confirm approval.
They didn't give a reason why it wasn't recomended.
I can't even give an intelligile guess at the reason.
Sorry; I don't know if any one else can help.
...Simon
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| 119.30 | Que? | UNTADH::TOWERS | | Fri Apr 02 1993 11:57 | 10 |
| I'm puzzled by the reference to not using Slick 50 if you have LSD. If
you put Slick 50 in the engine how does this affect the LSD? I thought
the oil source for the LSD was separate from the engine and that the
LSD often uses a totally different sort of oil?
I Slick 50'ed my car ( a Vauxhall Cavalier 4x4 poverty model) at 30,000
miles. It has now done 93,000 miles and is going stronger than ever
(possibly a tribute to German servicing for the last two years).
Brian
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| 119.31 | | WARNUT::RICE | It's only meeeeee | Fri Apr 02 1993 13:11 | 8 |
| I think it depends on the model of Car ? Don't some FWD motors have the
Gearbox & drive sharing the engine oil, or was that only old BMC
products like mini's that did this ? I guess modern stuff probably
uses separate oil for the gearbox/final drive case as it never did seem
a good idea to have gears running in 20W50, I can see how if Slick
50 got onto the LSD clutches it would play havoc :-)
.Stevie.
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| 119.32 | | KURMA::SWRIGHT | Whisky Nose @�@ , Strawberry Cheeks..!! | Fri Apr 02 1993 14:29 | 6 |
| I looked at the side of the box on slick 50 the other day and it
Recommends it for Turbo charged engines..!!! mmmmm
Steve
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| 119.33 | | OASS::FLASHE::BURDEN_D | A bear in his natural habitat | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:00 | 8 |
| The only reason I can think of Slick-50 having the warning about LSDs
is if some manufacturers put LSDs on cars that cannot handle any more
power than stock. If an LSD was designed to handle 120bhp and the
standard engine produces 120, then adding 10% power *could* damage the
diffy. I also find it hard to believe any manufacturer would cut
things that close, though.
Dave
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| 119.34 | Stick with Mobil 1 | SEDSWS::OXFORD | eezer good ! | Fri Apr 02 1993 16:34 | 15 |
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The reason for the warning is, as was stated some notes earlier, that
cars whos engines and gearboxes share the same oil (Escort RST for
example) will have the effectiveness of the L.S.D. decreased by the
more slippery oil.
But it depends on the type of L.S.D.
I believe the Escort uses a viscous coupled arrangement which means the
oil will have no effect on it, but if the diff uses some form of plates
causing friction, then its limited slippyness will be more slippy !
Make sense ?
Nick.
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| 119.35 | "Don't do it!!" | CHEFS::MUSSONJ | jamie | Thu Jul 18 1996 14:59 | 10 |
| Hi,
On the subject of Slick 50, I was advised not to use it in *Any*
engine.
Apparently, after some time the Teflon coating can peel away in strips
from the components and block the oil galleries.
Jamie
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| 119.36 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Don't get mad, get even. | Thu Jul 18 1996 15:51 | 10 |
| Thanks Jamie for posting that warning.
Please note that the terms 'advised' and 'apparently' are used.
This product has been on the market for donkey's years. If this
was a known problem I would have thought it would have been withdrawn.
I've never used this product myself but know of many others who
have and have had no coplaints.
Royston
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| 119.37 | | VANGA::KERRELL | salva res est | Fri Jul 19 1996 13:34 | 5 |
| re.35:
Not a problem if you flush the engine properly at oil change time.
Dave.
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| 119.38 | maybe it helps... | VYGER::JASPERT | | Thu Aug 01 1996 14:42 | 7 |
| I've used Slick-50 in my 125,000-mile Carlton gearbox & it made no noticable
difference. I used it in my Peugeot 205 & it fixed the baulking, noise,
snatching & all the other idiosyncrosies.
So, I score 1-all.
Tony.
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