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Conference 7.286::home_work

Title:Home_work
Notice:Check Directory (6.3) before writing a new note
Moderator:CSLALL::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Nov 05 1991
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2100
Total number of notes:78741

898.0. "Plans, Dumbwaiter" by RGB::SEILER (Larry Seiler) Mon Apr 11 1988 17:58

I'd like to install a dumbwaiter.  No, not a stupid server, a dinky
elevator to carry stuff from floor to floor.  In my case, I want
to put it in my garage, to carry stuff up into the room above without
my having to lug it up the stairs.  I want it to hold 4 grocery bags.

Does anybody out there have a dumbwaiter?  If so, where did you get it?
How much did it cost?  Do you use it much?  Had any problems with it?
I presume if anybody does have a dumbwaiter, it is electric, not manaul
(or squirrel drive)?  Any building codes to regulate this in a home?

	Thanks,
	Larry

PS - The next two replies are the only notes in this conference that
say anything about dumbwaiters.  Don't write to the authors, though,
as I've already asked them to supply additional information if they can.
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898.1Dumbwaiter to carry woodRGB::SEILERLarry SeilerMon Apr 11 1988 18:0216
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Note 293.3                      Fireplace design                         3 of 13
BRUTWO::COUTURE                                       8 lines   7-AUG-1986 13:41
                          -< How bout' an elevator.. >-
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    	A friend of my just built a house and along side the fireplace
    	put a dum-waiter (sp.) that goes into the cellar. It's a slick
    	unit, Upstairs there is a door to open and bingo there's 
    	your wood. All (most) of the mess is in the cellar)
    
    
    				Steve
    

898.2Build one with a garage door openerRGB::SEILERLarry SeilerMon Apr 11 1988 18:1212
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Note 949.6                  Building a laundry chute                     6 of 23
SSDEVO::SCHROEDER "Daryl D."                          4 lines  31-MAR-1987 10:43
                             -< Try a dumb waiter >-
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	You could try building a "dumb waiter" based around a garage door
opener.  I am going to put one in the house we are planning to have built.

Daryl

898.3I got one...RHODES::MRSMGRTue Apr 12 1988 07:5620
    Hi,
    	We have wood het via VT Castings stove in the Livingroom (Flue
    up fireplace). I built a dumbwaiter in my office closet down to
    the cellar. It is large enough to use a little cart I bought from
    a place in WV. I used two 2X6 dimentional stock for uprights and
    built a strong box to wheel the cart into. Lift supplied by a 110-v
    Northern Hydraulics winch (1000lb cap). It is a bit noisy but talk
    about convenience... Place cart in dw, push button, go downstairs
    and roll cart ddown little ramp, fill cart with logs, back into
    box, go upstairs, push button, roll cart over by stove in L-room!
    I also placed a piece of 3/4" plywood over the hole, slotted so
    that when the box comes up thru the hole it carries the "cover"
    and replaces itself when it goes down - great when you have children(
    we got 3).
    
    Sorry for the quick rundown but I gotta go for coffee (I got time
    'cause I have a DW!) 8^D
    Brian Garceau
    (VMS MAIL REPLYS TO BUDWZR::GARCEAU pls...)
    
898.4Fire codes?REGENT::GETTYSBob Gettys N1BRM 223-6897Tue Apr 12 1988 09:245
                Don't forget about the fire wall between the garage and
        the living space. You will need to take this into account when
        you design it.
                
                /s/     Bob
898.5What about detatched work rooms?RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerTue Apr 12 1988 12:2713
re .4:

Actually, it will come up in a work room above a detatched garage
that I plan to build.  My house is on a knoll, and the most convenient
place for the garage is at street level at the bottom of the hill.
So my plan is for a work room above the garage that is at the
level of the house but detatched from it.  Is there a fire law that
says that a workroom/storage room above a garage must have a fire wall
or be isolated from the garage?  I was planning on having an open
stairway from the lower level to the upper level...

	Thanks,
	Larry
898.6firecode sheetrockJENEVR::GRISETony GriseWed Apr 13 1988 11:4917
    
    
    	re .5
    
    	The living space above the garage must be sealed off with
    	5/8" fire code sheetrock.  The stairwell must also be sealed
    	off from the garage with a fire door separating the living
    	space from the garage space.  So, you must sheetrock the
    	garage ceiling and any common walls with 5/8" firecode rock.
    
    	Some towns will also make you sheetrock the exterior garage
    	walls with 5/8" rock, they claim that these are common to the
    	walls of the upper living unit.  The best thing to do is
    	to get the fire codes from the town fire department and talk
    	to the inspector before you do any sheetrock.
    
    	Tony.
898.7What is "living space"?RGB::SEILERLarry SeilerWed Apr 13 1988 22:4512
re .6:

Let me rephrase that.  The garage will not be attached to the house,
nor will the the room above it be attached to the house.  It will have
electicity but no water.  Mostly it will be used as a storage room;
it will also be used for working with power tools.  

So is this room really "living space"?  I would have thought that the 
whole thing counted as a "detatched structure", but what do I know.

	Thanks,
	Larry