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| 629.1 | the exhaust fumes can kill | CLOSUS::HOE | from Colorado with love! | Thu Mar 24 1988 00:42 | 0 |
| 629.2 | It's OK | FRSBEE::DEROSA | because a mind is a terrible thing | Thu Mar 24 1988 07:53 | 0 |
| 629.3 | I sure hope not! | SAACT3::SAKOVICH_A | Cogito ergo Zoom! | Thu Mar 24 1988 09:41 | 12 |
| � However, I've heard that it is illegal to have a room connected
� to a garage whose floor is lower than the floor of the garage.
� The problem mentioned is that the auto exhaust fumes, being heavier
� than regular air, would sink down into the living area.
Another example of better(?) living through more government controls!
I'm sure glad to see that .1 needed laws to tell him what a bad
situation was!
I hate taxes, too,
Aaron :^)
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| 629.4 | check with local building inspector first | FREDW::MATTHES | | Thu Mar 24 1988 09:48 | 13 |
| That's why the pits in garages are now illegal. You know before
the hydraulic lifts they just drive a car over a pit and walk down
steps to work on it. Lots of guys have died that way. CO is heavier
than air.
As long as you buld it so that there is no chance of air passing
from the garage to living space below, I don't see why you can't
build this. That's a big condition though.
As the saying goes, check with the building inspector in your area.
If he had a brother who was a grease monkey who had a garage with
a pit and is now ... you won't have much chance of gettin that
one by him.
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| 629.5 | | VINO::KILGORE | Wild Bill | Fri Mar 25 1988 15:19 | 8 |
| >> Lots of guys have died that way. CO is heavier
>> than air.
So are gasoline fumes.
If the garage has a cement floor, and there's no direct access from
the garage to the downstairs, I'd be comfortable - not otherwise.
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| 629.6 | Thanks! | CRAIG::YANKES | | Mon Mar 28 1988 12:50 | 25 |
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Thanks for the replies. What I think I'll do is talk to the
building inspector with an approach like this:
- Total cement floor on garage level
- No direct access from the garage to the basement room(s) (i.e.,
to get "downstairs", exit the garage to the middle room (up a step
or two) and then down a staircase from there).
- Vapor barrier on the basement room's ceiling insulation.
- Since the garage floor will have to be sloped for any water
run-off, the exhaust fumes would tend toward that corner of the
garage. In that corner, put a 3" exhaust fan at floor level that
automatically goes on whenever the garage door is opened and stays
on for X minutes after the door closes. This should vent most of
the remaining fumes outside. (It will have to have a one-shot cut-off
button, though, so that its not running all day when the garage
door is open in the summer.)
The worst he can say is "no". This isn't critical space, so
if I can't get it, its not biggie.
-craig
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| 629.7 | Sideways??? | MPGS::BRIGHTMAN | | Tue Mar 29 1988 08:27 | 12 |
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I there anyway one can build it so that you your garage is at basement
level?
My wife and I are building a house without a garage at this time, but
plan on adding a garage later. The garage will have the doors at the
end instead of the front with the driveway going down beside the
garage. This will give us a good size family room above the garage.
Just a thought,
TimB
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| 629.8 | CO sensor alram for piece of mind | PALMER::PALMER | half a bubble off plumb | Tue Mar 29 1988 09:24 | 7 |
| If you are concerned about carbon monoxide (CO) seeping into
the living space why not put in a CO sensor alarm. They look and
act like smoke detectors. I saw one advertised for about $75.
My uncle has a electric garage door opener with a CO alarm built
in. In case of high CO the alarm goes off and the garage door opens.
=Ralph=
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| 629.9 | | CRAIG::YANKES | | Tue Mar 29 1988 09:30 | 13 |
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Re: .8
Good suggestion, thanks.
Re: .7
I've thought of that (plenty!). The slope of the driveway would
just be too great for winter usage. Now, if only the Notes Readers
could come up with an inexpensive way of heating a driveway to melt
the snow and ice...
-c
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| 629.10 | | VIEW3D::YOST | | Tue Aug 22 1989 23:37 | 7 |
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re.6
I'm curious, how thick is your garage floor and how is it supported
underneath?
clay
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| 629.11 | | CRAIG::YANKES | | Fri Aug 25 1989 14:16 | 10 |
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Re: .10
> I'm curious, how thick is your garage floor and how is it supported
>underneath?
0 inches thick -- the addition that includes the garage being discussed
is still in the long-term planning stage. Sigh.
-c
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| 629.12 | Try Pre-Cast Concrete | TRITON::FERREIRA | | Fri Aug 25 1989 14:27 | 5 |
| My solution was pre-cast concrete, a tad more expensive, it would
take time to extrapolate the $$, it's worth it to me, No posts,
no fumes, no fire hazards and will support a bulldozer. Live load
calculations are available thru pre-cast concrete companies like
San-Vel in Ayer, Ma.
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